'da f**k is dat? SH*T!'
daryllh:I'm not really seeing how the hossa contract is going to help the hawks down the road. The breakdown was 7.9 million a year for the first 7 years. Then 4, then 2 years of 1 then 2 years of 750,000. That's a hefty front-loaded piece of work.
Annual cap hit is the average... or $5.2. So yeah it does help the Hawks from a cap flexibility standpoint today.
Down the road.... Hossa probably retired.
Didn't Ken Holland invent this hogwash?
(I think at some point the NHL is going to have to take a look at reigning in this type of cap avoidance).
mikko:Didn't Ken Holland invent this hogwash?
hell no. If you remember, DiPietro signed a 15 year deal back in 06 or 07. Last year, Ovie signed a 12 year deal.
Holland uses it to his advantage.
Burnside reported the numbers I gave. To me, that doesn't jive with 5.2 million a year. I'm not sure how the cap works in that regard but from what I saw, it's almost 8 million against the cap. You'd think it would be as easy as 5.2 a year but unless there was a 'bonus' (backloaded), the numbers don't make sense.
interesting...
Detroit Free Press reports that Hossa was offered 12 years/51 million. That was less than a million dollars per year difference. I don't know if that was the pre playoff offer or if it was the offer they were trying to hash out right up to the FA bell.
daryllh: interesting... Detroit Free Press reports that Hossa was offered 12 years/51 million. That was less than a million dollars per year difference. I don't know if that was the pre playoff offer or if it was the offer they were trying to hash out right up to the FA bell.
Pretty big difference if the distribution in the early years was significantly different.
Actually, pretty big difference -- regardless. Almost $12M less?
daryllh: Burnside reported the numbers I gave. To me, that doesn't jive with 5.2 million a year. I'm not sure how the cap works in that regard but from what I saw, it's almost 8 million against the cap. You'd think it would be as easy as 5.2 a year but unless there was a 'bonus' (backloaded), the numbers don't make sense.
Here's Chicago's cap hit info http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=CHI
Cap hit, as I understand it, is simply the total value of the contract divided by years of the contract.
So Hossa will count about $5.2M against the cap each of the 12 years. Regardless of how his actual pay due to the frontloading fluctuates.
Schrewd move by Chicago.
mikko: daryllh: interesting... Detroit Free Press reports that Hossa was offered 12 years/51 million. That was less than a million dollars per year difference. I don't know if that was the pre playoff offer or if it was the offer they were trying to hash out right up to the FA bell. Pretty big difference if the distribution in the early years was significantly different. Actually, pretty big difference -- regardless. Almost $12M less?
when you look at it that way, yeah. 10-12 million over the life is a pretty big deal.
Here's what the Hawks did so far. Madden is a good pickup.
jake dowell is still playing for them? he play for my high school team. nice guy from what i can remember.
I want to hump Brian Coopers leg and spuge Orange Blank
I never really took Terry Frei's word as gospel but here you go...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=frei_terry&id=4311202
Even I think the Wild will finish higher than 13th in the conference.
If they're out of the playoffs.... I HOPE they finish 13th and we enjoy some higher draft picks.
Still ... too early to tell. Chuck might not be done yet on that 2nd line centre and winger if there are teams unloading cap before the season.
Man, daryll... Wings are going to need some cheap forwards if this happens.
EklundGiven the Cap Situation in Detroit, I will be very curious how hard they work to retain Hudler.
EklundRT @TheFourthPeriod: Hudler's contract is open, they're still negotiating with Wings
EklundCzech Report that Hudler Signs 2 year deal with Moscow Dynamo "could be accurate" according to a source,
they have cheap forwards. Helm, Leino and Darth Kader.
Losing Huds would be a bummer. However, can Holland fill that spot with the money? Yes.
Saku Koivu to the Ducks.
1-yr/$3.25M
- Allure of centering Teemu in his last year too much.
- Competitiveness between Mikko/Saku probably an issue, as well.
- Almost certain the 3-yr deal Fletcher had on the table was equal to this offer, moneywise.
Ouch.
Lemaire coaching the Devils again.
YAWN
The New Jersey Devils have scheduled a conference call for 1:30 p.m. ET Monday to make a "major announcement," a team spokesman told NHL.com.According to a report in The Record's Devils' blog, Fire and Ice, all signs point to the team naming Jacques Lemaire as its new coach. Lemaire, who would replace Brent Sutter, led the Devils to the Stanley Cup in 1995 and had been coach of the Minnesota Wildfor the past nine years. He resigned as Wild coach after the regular season.Sutter stepped down last month, citing family reasons. He has since become the head coach of the Calgary Flames.Lemaire, 63, coached the Devils' from 1993-98 and remains the franchise's all-time leader in games coached (378) and victories (199). He is 540-414-177 for his career having also coached the Montreal Canadiens.He was 199-122-57 during his time in New Jersey in the mid-1990s and led the Devils to the playoffs in four of his five seasons. They swept the Detroit Red Wings in the 1995 Stanley Cup Final. The Devils also lost to the New York Rangers in the 1994 Eastern Conference Final.Under Lemaire, the Devils twice set a franchise record for victories in a season. They won 47 games in 1993-94 and eclipsed that with 48 victories in 1997-98. The current record is 51 wins, which they accomplished this past season under Sutter.According to RDS, Mario Tremblay, Lemaire's former assistant in Minnesota, would be joining him in New Jersey. What that would mean for current assistant coaches John MacLean and Tommy Albelin remains to be seen. Special assignment coaches Scott Stevens and Jacques Laperriere could be candidates for Lemaire's staff if he is indeed named as the team's new coach.Until this offseason, Lemaire was the only coach in Wild history. He came aboard with President and GM Doug Risebrough at the start of the 1998-99 season and went 293-255-108 in eight seasons. The Wild lost to Anaheim in the 2003 Western Conference Final. Lemaire won the Jack Adams Award for the 2002-03 season.However, Minnesota struggled this past season and missed the playoffs. Risebrough was subsequently fired and Lemaire stepped down.
You're just pissed at Lemaire and the Devils because of '95, ain't ya?
mikko: You're just pissed at Lemaire and the Devils because of '95, ain't ya?
not really. While it stung, it was a catalyst for the Wings rise to glory. Besides, almost everybody outside the Jersey area doesn't really view the 95 season as legit. lol
My disdain for his head coaching abilities is well documented. I think the Devils are saying 'we're in transition' with hiring him as coach. They'll have a bunch of young guys and I think he was brought into to set up a team for a couple years down the road. I would suspect that 'win now, at all costs' isn't written anywhere on Devils letterhead.
I hope Parise and Zajac like backchecking!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/9805508/Lemaire%27s-defense-first-mentality-is-old-school
Lou Lamoriello's decision to hire Lemaire 11 years after the end of a first five-year term that put the Devils on the NHL map but ultimately ended in underachievement is a misplaced reach into the past.
The future belongs to coaches who can, have and will adapt to a game that is evolving into a showcase for offensive talent, risk/reward attack, and creative, puck-possession teams. Lemaire, though, is wedded to the past. He is an obstinate, safety-first zealot whose defensive demands stifle creativity no matter how much he might disagree.
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Two years ago when Lemaire was coaching the Wild, winger Marian Gaborik finished seventh in the NHL with 42 goals. He was 43rd in the league among forwards in ice time with 19:35 per game and fourth among Wild forwards, trailing Brian Rolston, Mikko Koivu and Pavol Demitra.
And that stat wrapped in Lemaire's philosophy explains why Gaborik rejected Minnesota's contract extension offer this past October of 10 years at $78 million. The winger instead signed a five-year, $37.5M free agent contract with the Rangers.
It'll be interesting to see how Lemaire and Gaborik net out once they're separated.
I predict both scenarios are overplayed.
If healthy I predict Gabby to score about.... ohh, 40-45 goals.
Lemaire will win 45-50 games, coach his young squad to the playoffs... top 5 seed, and exit in the second round.
Tallon's out as Hawks GM.
If you listen to Havlat, it sounds like there's a big political storm brewing in Chi-town. Asst GM Rick Dudley (one of the chief guys responsible for scouting/drafting the young talent on the 'Hawks) also resigned a few weeks ago.
Posted on July 14th, 2009 – 5:02 PMBy Michael Russo
In the wake of Dale Tallon being fired by the Chicago Blackhawks, newly-signed Wild winger Martin Havlat sent out a string of tweets today from his Twitter account similar to what he alluded on the night of July 1 after signing with the Wild.
A lot of things happened in the end there in Chicago that Havlat would love to get off his chest. It has zero to do with Tallon, whom he and his agent adore. I talked to Havlat about this two weeks ago. Until I’m given permission by him to write it, I can’t. He’s sleeping on it and I expect to talk to him again Wednesday.
I’ve been in touch with Havlat and his agent today and they want to make it abundantly clear that what’s bothering him shouldn’t be construed as a slap in the face to Wild owner Craig Leipold, GM Chuck Fletcher, his new teammates and Wild fans. He wants to be in Minnesota and hopes what he’s been saying doesn’t appear as disloyalty to his new home. He says he’s excited to start anew and will devote himself entirely to the Wild.
On a side note, and unrelated partially to Havlat, as I mentioned on the blog this morning, the QO fiasco just gave them an excuse to fire Tallon, and it’s hard to believe the GM of the team had any role in QO’s being sent out. That’s what you have assistant GM’s and hockey ops people for. Regardless, always loyal, Tallon took the blame.
But as I mentioned on the blog this morning, there’s a lot of political things going on upstairs in that organization, and that’s why Rick Dudley quit last month as assistant GM and why Tallon was fired yesterday.
Below are Havlat’s tweets from earlier Tuesday
By telling truth, don’t want people to think I’m bitter. Everyone in Minn has been awesome, they believe in me and I won’t let them downabout 2 hours ago from web
Want to be clear. I loved my time in Chicago but moved on. Very excited about Minny,going to give everything I have to the Wild.about 2 hours ago from web
Just so everyone begins to understand, Dale was like a 2nd father to me about 2 hours ago from web Lot’s of people are telling me to stay quiet but shouldn’t the fans know the truth? It’s your loyalty, season ticket money and emotions hereabout 3 hours ago from web
I guess everyone saw what happened to Dale….yes, the story is starting to come out but it’s just the tip of the iceberg.about 3 hours ago from web
Havlat likes him some drama. Reminds me of a person who knows some office gossip, let's you know they do but doesn't say what it is. Annoying.
Marty...you should be in the weight room bulking up so you can take hits. Quit 'tweeting'