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Two more reasons to be embarrassed to be a Republican

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Lanark Posted: May 14, 2008 10:04

1. The House GOP voted overwhelmingly against a resolution in support of Motherhood in the run up to Mother's Day.

(actually the House GOP has decided to use the taxpayers dime to use every conceivable procedural tactic to stall any work being done and pretty much bring legislation in the House to a standstill. and oh yeah, David Vitter was cleared of his hooker scandal on a technicality while they were at it.)

2. Red & White Zubas.

 

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rost0031 replied on May 14, 2008 13:33

Holy shit....

Seriously, Zubas?

Oh, and check out this little nugget of repub clothing line:

Pink tracksuits for women!

This reminds me of the British version of redneck, otherwise known as a chav:

 

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Newman replied on May 15, 2008 6:56

 I've got another one - John McCain is the presidential nominee and he takes a shit on the Republican platform. 

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pluce007 replied on May 15, 2008 9:56
Interesting stuff here. 
 
And my disclaimer before someone takes everything below as my personal opinion(which it’s not):  These are facts, not opinions.  Every fact in sections 2 and 3 have links for verification.  I’m vehemently opposed to the “war.”   I don’t like Bush, at all.   Though I have shared views with both parties, I typically lean to the right based on fiscal policy, monetary policy, and the economic impacts of those, as well as the impacts of capitalism(which our country was founded on) because those are the most important issues to me.  And as someone much smarter than me once said, “The only difference between people is what’s important to them.”  Aside from all that.. I’ll be voting Dem this year.  

Part 1:

In just one year   Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following. A little over one year ago:
 
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
 
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
 
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
 
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
 
Remember it's CONGRESS that makes law, not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.
 
 
 
Part 2:
Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
 www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html  ß verification.

Taxes under Clinton 1999                         Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400              Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000            Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250            Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800         Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000  ;        Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750       Married making 125K - tax $31,250
Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates.
 
It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen… How ironic. 
 

PART 3:

The war in Iraq has cost approximately $100 Billion per year!  …However, many people are not as focused on, or have no clue where another $338.3 Billion dollars per year is spent.  Where are the picketers and yard signs for this issue which is costing more than 3 times the war?  Read these 14 facts and see how you feel..
 
 
I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts:
1.      $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.    
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2.      $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3.      $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4.      $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5.      $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6.      $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7.      30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. 
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8.      $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9.      $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10.    The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens.  In particular,  their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt..01.html
11.    During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.  Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report:  http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12.    The National Policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.
Verify at:  http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13.    In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14.    The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.
The total cost is $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. 
 
 
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message.  If, on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.
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Lanark replied on May 15, 2008 12:30

I'm pretty sure they'll slap some depends on the old guy before propping him up at the convention just in case.

 

Oh that platform...

 

 

McCain is Bush-lite.  It has very little to do with actual Republican Party ideals and lots to do with appeasing the outer fringe of the Right that for some reason the GOP still seems to feel is going help them win elections even as the rest of the country turns away from it and them.

Even the usually dependable evangelicals are starting to edge away from the GOP..

 

(and now you know how I felt in 1988. Dukakis? that's the best they could come up with? Seriously?)

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rost0031 replied on May 15, 2008 14:18

pluce007:


3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
 
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
 
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);

Your math.  You fail at it.

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G.G. replied on May 15, 2008 14:39

 This, if its true, is an absolute plane wreck.

http://tinyurl.com/zob77

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Voltron replied on May 15, 2008 14:45

 I'd would hate to be republican, imagine all the apologizing.

 

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Lanark replied on May 15, 2008 15:46

rost0031:

 

Your math.  You fail at it.

I think the fail begins with cut and pasting one of those dumbass emails that circulate to begin with.

It's chock-a-block with straw men....

 

 

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rost0031 replied on May 15, 2008 15:47

Lanark:

rost0031:

 

Your math.  You fail at it.

I think the fail begins with cut and pasting one of those dumbass emails that circulate to begin with.

It's chock-a-block with straw men....

 

 

Fair enough.  I just wanted to point out the most obvious "facepalm moments".

 

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rost0031 replied on May 15, 2008 16:15

Oh look.  Another reason to be embarrassed if you're a republican.  You don't support the troops.  At least not enough to pass the GI bill for all those soldiers you sent to war.

http://www.theseminal.com/2008/05/15/morning-topic-why-dont-republicans-support-our-troops/

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GOOTS replied on May 15, 2008 16:23

I'm looking forward to when divisiveness is no longer trendy.

 

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O replied on May 15, 2008 16:24

 Yep, clearly a c&p.  If you're going to spew statistics and claim they're facts, at least do the research yourself.

 

Then again, did anyone check to see how inaccurate these claims are?  I suppose if one had the time, they could take the time to look.

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Voltron replied on May 15, 2008 16:29

 I'm just glad that many of you remain on the right, had you defected I'd have put in for a transfer to maintain that balance.

 

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Newman replied on May 15, 2008 16:57

Lanark:

I'm pretty sure they'll slap some depends on the old guy before propping him up at the convention just in case.

 

Oh that platform...

 

 

McCain is Bush-lite.  It has very little to do with actual Republican Party ideals and lots to do with appeasing the outer fringe of the Right that for some reason the GOP still seems to feel is going help them win elections even as the rest of the country turns away from it and them.

Even the usually dependable evangelicals are starting to edge away from the GOP..

 

(and now you know how I felt in 1988. Dukakis? that's the best they could come up with? Seriously?)

 

 You are seriously detached from reality if you think that McCain is appeasing the outer fringe of the Right.  Like, completely detached.  I guess that cap and trade concerning carbon emissions is a "fringe right wing" idea...so is McCain's stance on immigration....or his stance on campaign finance.  Aside from his stance on taxes, which I feel is disingenuous, and his stance on the war on terror, it's really hard to find common ground with the guy even if you're a little bit right of center.  And I know that people always talk about the "religious right" but it seems to me that a lot of the religious folk are leaning to the left. 

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G.G. replied on May 15, 2008 17:27

Newman:

 people always talk about the "religious right" but it seems to me that a lot of the religious folk are leaning to the left. 

 

 Actually, I'm not convinced on this one, Newman.  I think most social conservatives (i.e. the "religious right") will vote McCain even though they would have preferred Huckabee by a LARGE margin.  Abortion, gay marriage, and allegiance to Israel trump all.

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O replied on May 15, 2008 17:39

 This election is gonna suck.

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