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This Myanmar tragedy

Latest post May 11, 2008 7:43 by Lanark. 22 replies.
  • May 09, 2008 9:45

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    This Myanmar tragedy

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  • May 09, 2008 9:55 In reply to

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    G.G.:

    What is unbelievable?

    That a foregin government would get inbetween aide and the people who it is meant to help?

    or that the article is blaming that foreign government YET FLAT OUT IGNORING that the real culprit is that Americans are paying way to much at the gas pumps?

    Personally I think they were taking notes during Katrina.

     

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  • May 09, 2008 11:25 In reply to

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    Re: This Myanmar tragedy

     I'd like to know what International Law has to say about a situation like this.  Hundreds of thousands of people are dead or soon will be. 

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 12:56 In reply to

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    G.G.:

     I'd like to know what International Law has to say about a situation like this.  Hundreds of thousands of people are dead or soon will be. 

     

    I don't think that there is any international law concerning this.   It's their country and they have sovernty.

     

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  • May 09, 2008 13:12 In reply to

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    Re: This Myanmar tragedy

     But there are obligations regarding genocide which is what this is essentially.

     

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  • May 09, 2008 13:13 In reply to

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    G.G.:

     But there are obligations regarding genocide which is what this is essentially.

    Careful.  That might make US liable for Katrina.  They just happened to get a bigger storm.

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 13:15 In reply to

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    G.G.:

     But there are obligations regarding genocide which is what this is essentially.

    Careful.  That might make US liable for Katrina.  They just happened to get a bigger storm.

     

    NICELY DONE!!!

    To bad they don't have oil, we'd be running over the UN and the Red Cross to get in there with aid.

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 13:17 In reply to

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    Re: This Myanmar tragedy

     Rost, you're comparing apples to oranges.  The feds didn't respond quickly enough to Katrina but they didn't take international aid that would save hundreds of thousands of people and refuse to let aid agencies distribute it. 

    Toddah...read the fucking article BEFORE you talk about it. 

     

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  • May 09, 2008 13:36 In reply to

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    Re: This Myanmar tragedy

    Number Johnny 5

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  • May 09, 2008 13:50 In reply to

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    Get a sense of humor why don't you, I was complimenting Rosts comic presence not his insightfulness into the situation.

    Goots, what is your opinion on this and please give sources and I don't want you to reference mass media but scholarly Journals only. \

    :) Ha ha 

     

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  • May 09, 2008 14:00 In reply to

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    G.G.:

     Rost, you're comparing apples to oranges.  The feds didn't respond quickly enough to Katrina but they didn't take international aid that would save hundreds of thousands of people and refuse to let aid agencies distribute it. 

    Toddah...read the fucking article BEFORE you talk about it. 

    That's exactly what they did.

    http://www2.nysun.com/national/us-refused-most-offers-of-aid-for-hurricane/

     

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  • May 09, 2008 14:29 In reply to

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    Re: This Myanmar tragedy

     

    rost0031:

    It doesn't tell me why and since I've never heard this before, I'd like to hear the reasoning for it.

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 14:42 In reply to

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    Toodles:

     

    G.G.:

    What is unbelievable?

    That a foregin government would get inbetween aide and the people who it is meant to help?

    or that the article is blaming that foreign government YET FLAT OUT IGNORING that the real culprit is that Americans are paying way to much at the gas pumps?

    Personally I think they were taking notes during Katrina.

     

    Before I opened this thread, I thought to myself, "Not even Todd is stupid enough to try to fault America for this."

     

     

     

     

    I stand corrected.

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  • May 09, 2008 14:44 In reply to

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    G.G.:

     

    rost0031:

    It doesn't tell me why and since I've never heard this before, I'd like to hear the reasoning for it. 

     

    I did know that they refused a crap load of aide from Hugo Chavez (including 2 mobile hospital units) I however wasn't aware of the rest. 

    I guess your point has less satire than I originally thought Rost.

    I apologize for assuming you were just trying to be funny

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 14:46 In reply to

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     Owen

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    Toodles:

     

    G.G.:

    What is unbelievable?

    That a foregin government would get inbetween aide and the people who it is meant to help?

    or that the article is blaming that foreign government YET FLAT OUT IGNORING that the real culprit is that Americans are paying way to much at the gas pumps?

    Personally I think they were taking notes during Katrina.

     

    Before I opened this thread, I thought to myself, "Not even Todd is stupid enough to try to fault America for this."

     

     

     

     

    I stand corrected.

    Owen, that comment about the pump was a digger of GG who thinks high gas prices in America is the leading reason that there is starvation in the 3rd world. 

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 15:12 In reply to

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    G.G.:

     

    rost0031:

    It doesn't tell me why and since I've never heard this before, I'd like to hear the reasoning for it.

     

    I'm guessing it's simply an issue of sovernty.  I can't think of any other excuse.  Governments are very careful about letting in outsiders to help its populace because it makes it look impotent and powerless.  Like I said though, that's a guess.  Don't worry, I'm not singling out US in this.  Many (probably most) countries do this.

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 15:21 In reply to

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    Re: This Myanmar tragedy

     

    rost0031:

    Many (probably most) countries do this. 

    Not according to CNN:

    Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said the military junta in Myanmar has behaved "appallingly" by declining to grant more visas to relief workers.

    "This has never happened before," he said Friday.

    To complicate matters, Myanmar's embassy in Bangkok, Thailand -- where aid groups have been waiting for days for entry permission -- was closed Friday for a holiday

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 15:33 In reply to

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     I would love to see this situation shed some light on the Katrina situation. 

    I agree Rost that saving face is important, especially if it is us and Hugo Chavez is offering the help. 

    I'll give the US the benefit of the doubt though and keep an open mind as more information rolls in. (THAT IS FOR YOU OWEN)

     

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  • May 09, 2008 15:37 In reply to

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    I think we can all agree on this: That cyclone has a pretty strange sense of humor.

     

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  • May 09, 2008 15:50 In reply to

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    G.G.:

     

    rost0031:

    Many (probably most) countries do this. 

    Not according to CNN:

    Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said the military junta in Myanmar has behaved "appallingly" by declining to grant more visas to relief workers.

     

    "This has never happened before," he said Friday.

    To complicate matters, Myanmar's embassy in Bangkok, Thailand -- where aid groups have been waiting for days for entry permission -- was closed Friday for a holiday

     

    Well, that Aussie is a moron.  India did this during their tsunami.

    http://www.alertnet.org/thefacts/reliefresources/110598369352.htm

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/01/mil-050111-237c3dcf.htm

     

     

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  • May 09, 2008 15:50 In reply to

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    Justin - A Minnesota Star Citizen:

    I think we can all agree on this: That cyclone has a pretty strange sense of humor.

     

     

    Yes indeed

     

     

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  • May 10, 2008 12:05 In reply to

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