Yea, o.k. Al.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/18377884.html

The guy is a millionaire. He's going to try to tell folks that his accoutant didn't know that he was supposed to pay income tax in each individual state in which he worked?

Puh-lease

That's it.  I'm voting for that upstanding, principled patriot by the name of Norm Coleman!

Who's a lying liar?

I think he should be more concerned with the billions of dollars

that have been stolen by all of the iraq contractors on HIS watch.

Besides, Coleman spends more than that getting his TEEF whitened.

GRocky:

That's it.  I'm voting for that upstanding, principled patriot by the name of Norm Coleman!

Not trying to push a partisan agenda here. Only calling bs. IMO both Nam and Al can stick the election up there collective noses.

riddleywalker:

Not trying to push a partisan agenda here. Only calling bs. IMO both Nam and Al can stick the election up there collective noses.

 

Have you ever hired an idiot that didn't know what he was doing?

Could it possibly be as simple as that? Just asking.

aaronious:

riddleywalker:

Not trying to push a partisan agenda here. Only calling bs. IMO both Nam and Al can stick the election up there collective noses.

 

Have you ever hired an idiot that didn't know what he was doing?

Could it possibly be as simple as that? Just asking.

I don't know man. That's kind of a big discrepancy. I mean I guess I assume that it's common knowledge that if one were to move to another state next week that one would have to take into account the income taxes that they would possibly owe back in Minnesota. That includes if you're working for a day in another state, every state has their own tax laws and rates and you have to abide by them individually. And trust me, I am not a great accounting mind. Sure I've hired a couple of dolts in my time, but this seems like pretty common sense stuff.

 Is this the same Al that "forgot" to carry Worker's Comp insurance for his employees?

Yes......yes it is.  A real "man of the people" he is.

Again, billions versus $70,000.... you make the call.

Either way, I think both are retarded and not good enough for our state.

They should get a room already and get after it.

aaronious:

Again, billions versus $70,000.... you make the call.

Either way, I think both are retarded and not good enough for our state.

They should get a room already and get after it.

O.k. O.k., now, do I think that Al intentionally was out to rip off state governments? No.

Do I think this is more relevant and poor reflection on a public office nominee and than the ravings of a baptist minister. Yer darn tootin'

I think this is total bullshit.  He paid 917,000 instead of 921,000 (the $70,000 comes into play only when you figure in the penalties).  That doesn't scream "tax evasion" to me.  It's not like he's some asshole arguing that God and the Constitution say that only people in Washington, D.C. are "citizens" of the United States and no one else has to pay income taxes.

If Al does his taxes like I do mine, he puts all his shit in an envelope, sends it to the accountant, and signs whatever the accountant sends back to him.  If you're going to hold that against him, than I can't imagine who on Earth would fucking pass muster.

I don't know anything about the worker's comp stuff.  I can easily imagine it's the same thing, where he signs whatever his business guys tell him to sign.  Maybe not.

What a crock.

I guess another question related to this topic
is just what in the hell has Norm Coleman ever
done while in office other than pander to the elite
and play kiss ass to the administration?

If you ask me, he's basically invisible to our state.

Josh:

I think this is total bullshit.  He paid 917,000 instead of 921,000 (the $70,000 comes into play only when you figure in the penalties).  That doesn't scream "tax evasion" to me.  It's not like he's some asshole arguing that God and the Constitution say that only people in Washington, D.C. are "citizens" of the United States and no one else has to pay income taxes.

If Al does his taxes like I do mine, he puts all his shit in an envelope, sends it to the accountant, and signs whatever the accountant sends back to him.  If you're going to hold that against him, than I can't imagine who on Earth would fucking pass muster.

I don't know anything about the worker's comp stuff.  I can easily imagine it's the same thing, where he signs whatever his business guys tell him to sign.  Maybe not.

What a crock.

The man is running for U.S. Senate. I would think that he would want to make sure that all of his ducks were in a row finacially before he was going to be given a job that entails earmarking tax dollars for various projects or programs.

I've had enough of politicians that are handed a piece of paper and simply "sign off" and then claim ignorance when/if things go wrong.

His "people" should be > my "people"

I have to disagree.  How are you supposed to know your accountant fucked up until something like this happens?  I hope my accountant is good, but how the hell would I know?  It's not like he just went in to H&R Block and said "fix me up."  Again, this is a 4,000 dollar mistake on a 900,000+ tax bill that involved twenty-something states.  Less than one-half of one percent of his tax liability.

If this is your litmus test, you're not going to have anyone you can vote for.

He ain't no Wesley Pipes.

 I wouldn't vote for Al Franken either way, the guy's a douche...Coleman's a RINO so I'm not excited to vote for him either.  It's going to be another year of me voting for some Republican who you would never believe was a Republican if they didn't have an R next to their name.  Coleman should just go back to being a Democrat, he fits in better there.  Actually, I take that back, he seems to fit in with a lot of Republicans now, but it's not because he holds Republican ideals.  At this point I'm understanding the urge people have to get involved in a third party...

Really Newman, by current GOP standards Barry Goldwater and a lot the positions he staked out would be a RINO (if not an out and out Liberal.) The Party has shifted far to the right in the last decade it barely holds on to its own ideals. As weasely and self serving as I find Coleman, I find his attempt to stake himself a claim towards the center much easier to swallow than say, Michelle Bachman. Get ready to start your third party because after 8 years of W the political climate is going to shift back towards Center again and leave you hanging.

As for Franken. His accountant screwed up what was surely a thick tangled web of tax forms and made a $4G error which has compounded. Now seriously, Mr. F'n Hockey, if Franken's paid professional Tax Accountant couldn't figure it all out, you're going to hold it against Franken that he couldn't look over a large stack of complex Tax Forms and be all "Hey Bob, I think you made a mistake on page 13? Could you?

If Franken was able to figure out that kind of stuff he probably wouldn't have to pay somebody else to do it.

I wonder how many people that are all up in arms about this fill out the 1040-EZ and have no idea what Schedule C even looks like!

Lanark, I hear people say that the GOP has moved further to the right all the time and I just don't get where they're coming from.  They used to be the party that wanted to rein in spending and decrease the size of government.  It certainly doesn't seem that way now.  The leadership in the GOP is constantly passing legislation that expands government (especially locally), instead of fighting against energy legislation that is raising the price of energy and food they pass it and in some cases are the ones proposing it.  What is it about the GOP that leads you to say that they are more right wing than they were a decade ago?  Through my eyes it's the exact opposite.

Newman, you're looking kind of missing or glossing over the whole social issues side of the GOP.

The constant pandering to the extreme end of the Religious Right.  I'm talking about the Party that seems much less interested in fiscal responsibility as it does to who's going to appoint the Supreme Court Justices to overturn Roe v Wade and keep homos from getting married. I'm talking about the Party where a guy who can advocate for the pre-emptive start of WWIII in order to induce the Second Coming gets the ear of power and where the idea of a Mexican border fence gets mainstreamed traction today where twenty years ago it was the batshit idea of David Duke & the KKK. Pretty much a whole lot of the "Family Values" hot button crap that the gets thrown about by the Republican Party that has very little to do with the size and scope of the government and all those ideas therein that not so very long ago were kind of the lunatic fringe of the Right. That's what I'm talking about.

It's a now thankfully fading world where somebody like Anne Coulter, (or currently Michelle Malkin now that Coulter's starting to really age) & Bill O'Reilly could actually be considered relavent to mainstream thought and not relagated to ranting in the darkness of an interweb radio show listened to by dozens of other equally shrill nutjobs instead of being the talking head du jour for CNN.

Josh:

 

If this is your litmus test, you're not going to have anyone you can vote for.

I agree.

Sure, maybe this isn't a big deal. It does add another chapter to my Al Franken file though